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@disberd disberd commented Sep 15, 2025

Attempt to add italian translation following similar examples for other languages

One notable thing I kept (clipboard) next to the italian translation appunti as to me that still sounds a bit weird and I think a lot of people even in italy might be more familiar with clipboard than appunti, but I may be biased as it's too long I live outside of italy :D

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Open Julia and type:

julia> import Pkg
julia> Pkg.activate(temp=true)
julia> Pkg.add(url="https://github.com/disberd/Pluto.jl", rev="italian_translation")
julia> using Pluto

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fonsp commented Sep 18, 2025

Thanks so much!! 🇮🇹🇮🇹 Looks really good 👍

In some other languages we discussed using gendered language in the translation. In #3333 and #3325 we ended up using "new" gender-inclusive language, like "Es-tu sûr·e" instead of "Es-tu sûr"/"Es-tu sûre" in French, or "Entwickler:innen" instead of "Entwickler"/"Entwicklerinnen" in German.

I searched a bit for Italian, and I found the 'shwa': Aggiungi autorə {{plus}}, or the asterisk: Aggiungi autor* {{plus}}. But I don't speak italian. One consideration is also the TTS assistive tech. E.g. in German, Entwickler:innen is pronounced better by screen readers than Entwickler*innen.

What do you think for italian?

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disberd commented Sep 23, 2025

Thanks so much!! 🇮🇹🇮🇹 Looks really good 👍

In some other languages we discussed using gendered language in the translation. In #3333 and #3325 we ended up using "new" gender-inclusive language, like "Es-tu sûr·e" instead of "Es-tu sûr"/"Es-tu sûre" in French, or "Entwickler:innen" instead of "Entwickler"/"Entwicklerinnen" in German.

I searched a bit for Italian, and I found the 'shwa': Aggiungi autorə {{plus}}, or the asterisk: Aggiungi autor* {{plus}}. But I don't speak italian. One consideration is also the TTS assistive tech. E.g. in German, Entwickler:innen is pronounced better by screen readers than Entwickler*innen.

What do you think for italian?

Hi Fons, on my side I didn't even know the existence of shwa nor its use for inclusiveness. I have seen the asterisk especially used in informal settings. In italian documents usually you have directly o/a at the end of the word referring to the reader, like benveuto/a for welcome. For author not sure how that would work, as you don't simply change the last letter or add something for the feminin (autore is male and autrice is female).
I am a bit unsure what would be the best approach here, @giordano or @lucaferranti do you have any opinion or suggestion?

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fonsp commented Oct 13, 2025

Reminder for this PR :)

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fonsp commented Dec 1, 2025

I don't want the PR to get stuck on this one point, I will try to find some other people to review (I asked Luca on slack).

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fonsp commented Dec 1, 2025

I asked a friend to help me, and he suggested to write the masculine and feminine forms with a slash, and that this is quite common in Italian. So for example:

"Sei sicuro/a di voler eliminare {{count}} celle?" or

"Sei sicuro/sicura di voler eliminare {{count}} celle?"

What do you think about this approach?

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disberd commented Dec 2, 2025

Yeah that was the approach I suggested in the previous comment as the one I am most used to see in italian.
I updated the translation file to apply that to the few spots that had masculine only words

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I asked Luca on slack

not sure if I'm the luca in question,but slack doesn't let me log in 😅 happy to take a look though

@fonsp fonsp merged commit 5f47d28 into fonsp:main Dec 3, 2025
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fonsp commented Dec 3, 2025

Awesome, thank youu!!!

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